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Housewife highlights/Daily shit talk - November 13th, 2020
- Why ‘RHOSLC’ stars Jen Shah and Mary Cosby may never be friends (Page Six exclusive)
The “Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” co-stars got into some drama off-screen that carried into the show’s premiere Wednesday.
Cosby, 47, told Shah, 46, that she smelled like a hospital while Shah was caring for her ailing aunt. Their tensions came to a head when Shah tried to confront Cosby at a party for co-star Meredith Marks, but it seems that the women were never able to make amends.
“The kicker is I didn’t even go to the hospital!” Shah recently told Page Six. “So you’re just being evil. I mean, you know, I know that she’s a woman of God and all, but that’s not very godlike. At least in my church.”
However, Shah hopes to reconcile with the Pentecostal First Lady.
“I just want her to apologize and say sorry,” Shah explained. “I’m very easy. Like, I know people make mistakes, even though that mistake was like … that’s just like you’re not a nice person. But, hey, let’s just apologize and mean it, be genuine and then let’s just move on. We can do that. That’s literally all I want from her to move forward. I don’t know if she’s capable of that. Maybe she can go back to her church and pray and then come back and let me know.”
- Preview of next week's SLC episode (Queens of Bravo Twitter) And another (The Peach Report Twitter)
- The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Jen Shah on Racism, Leaving the Mormon Church & More (E! exclusive)
The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City finally premiered and new Housewife Jen Shah is spilling all the scoop on the new series.
"Salt Lake City is the perfect city for The Real Housewives because No. 1 it's absolutely gorgeous. Everyone who comes here is in awe of the beauty of Salt Lake City," Shah told E! News exclusively. "But I think it's perfect because it is so unexpected. I think people are going to be shocked when they see that we are bringing the fashion of Beverly Hills, the drama of New York, we can read people just like Atlanta and Potomac. I think they are going to be shocked because they're not expecting that. And then we are also adding another layer that I don't think is really been brought to the forefront in other franchises, not only diversity but diversity within religion as well."
The businesswoman and mother said she "immediately" said yes when asked to be a part of the show, adding, "But personally too, I felt like because the show is based out of Salt Lake City that it would be important for me to be part of the show to represent some diversity and to make sure they know it's not just all blond-haired, blue-eyed girls out here in Utah, that we've got some flavor."
Shah, who is Tongan and Hawaiian, and husband Sharrieff are parents to two biracial Black sons.
"Salt Lake City now, today in 2020, we are getting more diverse, much more than 40 years ago," Shah explained. "People joke around where they're like, ‘Are there any Black people here in Salt Lake City?' and I'm like, ‘Yeah, all six of them are in my family basically.' Because it's not the norm here, especially not for Black people. There's a lot of Polynesians here, we're getting a lot of different ethnic groups, but it's definitely a culture shock I think for some people."
Shahs says growing up in Salt Lake City, people would often times mistakenly assume what race she is.
"It was difficult just because I was different and a lot of people thought I was Black growing up because they didn't know. They just knew if you're not white, you're Black, and so that's just what they thought," she said. "Now people are obviously a little bit more educated because we do have a large Pacific Islander, Tongan population here. But yeah, a lot of times people think I'm Black and obviously my family is, so that's just usually what they think. I had to work 20 times harder than my male counterparts here, not only because of me being a minority but the religion too. That was hard. It's like if somebody could choose every single way to be different than where they're at, that's basically what I did."
Shah grew up Mormon like most people in Salt Lake City, but converted to Islam years ago because of ideological differences.
"When I was about five years into my marriage, we had our first son and it was time to start thinking about how we are going to raise him under one religion. It was important to me that we had consistency, I didn't want my son to be confused with what mommy is practicing and what dad is practicing," Shah revealed. "So I told my husband, I just assumed he would convert to Mormonism and that's when he was like, ‘Well, no because they didn't accept Black people into the Mormon church until like the late 1970s.' I initially didn't believe him because I had never heard that and I grew up in the church. So I went to do some research and asked for guidance and the questions to be answered from my bishop, my mom and nobody could really give me an answer other than, ‘That's just how it was.' And so at that time I just didn't feel comfortable. I didn't feel that I could continue subscribing to a religion that didn't accept my husband and my kids. I didn't know how to explain to them why that was the reason."
Shah says she has been on the receiving end of racism. She's also had to have difficult conversations about race with people who are more conservative and close-minded in Salt Lake City.
"Here in Utah there's a saying, ‘They're the nicest racists you'll ever meet here in Utah,' and the reason why people say that is because it's not like Alabama or down South where they will just tell you to your face, where my kids have been called the N-word to their face, where it's just right in your face like in the South," she said. "Racism is prevalent but I feel like they take it in a much more ignorant fashion where it's like, 'Oh wait, I didn't know that me saying this would be so offensive.' It's like they say it to your face but with a smile type thing. So there's been a lot of conversations. I was that mom that was running to the principal's office because I didn't appreciate someone calling my son 'chocolate boy' on the playground or just things like that where other parents didn't see the real issue with it or they thought it was harmless and it's like, 'No, it's not. It's offensive.'"
As for drama the show, Shah says her "direct" style of speaking will definitely get her into hot water with her RHOSLC co-stars this season.
"On the show I think because of my personality and I am so direct, it creates drama…I'm pretty sure I had drama with every single person on the show," she laughed. "It's a strange thing here in Utah where a lot of the girls, there's no confrontation and they will have an issue with people but they're like, 'Oh my gosh, hi! How are you? You look so cute.' And then behind your back they're like, 'Oh my gosh, I hate her. I can't believe she did this.' And I am like the opposite personality."
- Photos: See Inside Salt Lake City Housewife Jen Shah's Breathtaking House (Bravo)
- The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Meredith Marks teases "liar" in the cast (Digital Spy exclusive)
While viewers will have to watch the new season on Hayu to find out exactly what's behind Meredith's mistrust, she did admit to Digital Spy that she's suspicious of multiple castmates.
"What's interesting there is it's a little bit mysterious to me," she admitted. "I will be watching and learning along with the rest of the world. There was a lot that definitely went on behind my back. Minimally, there is at least one liar in the group but I think there's probably more than one."
"Things just don't add up and I'm not really sure who's responsible for what. So, I will be watching along with everybody else to try to find out."
With a full season of drama now behind her, Meredith also opened up on where she stands with fellow castmates Lisa Barlow, Mary Cosby, Heather Gay, Whitney Rose and Jen Shah now.
"I'm still close with Lisa, no question about that," she told us. "With everybody, I still talk to everybody. There's nobody I'm not speaking to. But, I'm taking a step back to try to figure out who's responsible for what."
"I don't want to give too much away but there's a lot of, you know, badmouthing and it gets back to me. I don't really know who's telling the truth and who's lying because things don't add up. I know somebody's lying and I have to figure that out. Right now, I'm just taking a step back and I'm waiting to see about my other relationships."
However, she added: "I definitely don't think Lisa's responsible. She's still my closest friend. That much I do know."
- Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Meredith Marks teases New York City cast crossover potential (Digital Spy exclusive)
"I started watching Housewives really over this past year, really as I realised I was involved in this process," she explained. "I watched very little of the old episodes, and I've sort of just been watching the new stuff as it airs… What I can tell you is I'm in New York right now.
"I spend a lot of time here. I would probably say New York on that basis."
Meredith also hinted that there are two current New York City Housewives she'd most love to see on a special crossover episode someday.
"I think a lot of them would [fit in]," she said. "If I had to choose two who I'd think would fit in the best, I'd probably pick Leah [McSweeney] and Sonja [Morgan], but I kinda think all of us in Salt Lake, we're all so, so different from one another, you could almost throw anyone into the group and it would just change the dynamic.
"We're all very, very different from one another. It's not like we're wired the same and we do the same stuff. We're all completely different and focused on different things."
- Andy Cohen Is Already Breaking Up Some Reunion-Level Drama Among the Salt Lake City Housewives (WWHL/Bravo)
Meredith and Lisa Barlow both confirmed that they heard Mary make the comment, but they didn't know what it was regarding. However, Jen said that Mary admitted to saying it was about her in the RHOSLC series premiere. "Mary, did you watch Episode 1, because you already admitted that you said that," Jen said on WWHL.
The two then continued to disagree on the matter on WWHL with Mary ultimately telling Jen, "Girl, bye," and Jen asking host Andy Cohen, "Can we mute her?"
Jen seems to be referencing when Andy memorably pulled out the mute button during The Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 12 virtual reunion in May. Even though Jen and Mary appeared to be getting into some reunion-level drama on WWHL, Andy said that he'll be reserving that mute button for a later date. "No, not yet. Sweetie, it's only Episode 1," Andy told Jen on WWHL. "The mute button doesn't come out for about 12 weeks."
- 'RHOSLC's Whitney Rose on Troublemaking Co-Stars and Being Excommunicated From the Mormon Church (ET exclusive)
"There's one thing that I believe by and that's, own it," the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star tells ET, maybe subconsciously channeling another Housewife, Beverly Hills' Lisa Rinna, who's made "own it" her catchphrase.
Whitney "owns it" from the jump on RHOSLC, revealing in the premiere episode that 10 years prior, her first marriage ended after she entered into an affair with her now-husband, Justin, who was also married at the time. When she got divorced, Whitney became "unofficially excommunicated" from the Mormon Church, a big deal for a lifelong Mormon with family ties to the earliest days of the religion.
"I wasn't forced out, which is shocking," she explains. "An unofficial excommunication means that you leave by your own free will. I stopped practicing, I removed my Mormon garments that I was wearing, which is the underwear you receive when you make a commitment in the Mormon Church."
Whitney jokes she might become officially excommunicated from the Church, though, once RHOSLC starts airing, but she's OK with that.
"Yes, I've already blown up my life -- in a way that is unimaginable," she says. "I've lost family, friends, I've hurt tons of people. I've been judged, I've been… everything, so it's almost like therapy to sit here in front of the world and say, yes, this is how it started. I made that choice -- a lot of people do -- but a lot of people don't own it, and owning it has helped me create a firm foundation and a stable life."
That journey will be on full display in RHOSLC's debut season, which Whitney describes as "one big, giant mirror" that's helped her see just how much she's grown in 11 years since the now-34-year-old decided to walk away from the only life she knew. The season premiere features a vow renewal between Whitney and Justin to mark their 10-year anniversary. While that may not seem controversial, vow renewals don't have the best track record for marriages on The Real Housewives (see the divorces of Vicki and Donn Gunvalson, Cynthia Bailey and Peter Thomas, Shannon and David Beador, and Ramona and Mario Singer, just to name a few).
"The vow renewal was happening regardless of the show," Whitney promises. "That was something that Justin and I said, we always joked that if we made it to the 10-year mark -- which in and of itself being a second marriage and an affair, we already beat, like, every odd against us, right? So, here we are and it was important to us to celebrate that."
"I didn't get my dream wedding," she adds. "I've been married twice and I never had the wedding I want. The first time was at the Mormon Church with, unfortunately, the wrong person for me. Second time was in front of people who didn't want us to be married and I was wearing [my prom dress]."
"It meant so much to me to walk in front of people who love and support Justin and I, and I got to pick out whatever dress I wanted to wear and have the party I wanted to have!" she notes. It's a party that ends with Whitney showing off tricks on one of the three stripper poles she has in her house.
"You're going to have to watch to see if the pole's the only thing I like to swing around," she quips, referencing some rumors that pop up this season surrounding her marriage. Apparently, Lisa Barlow accuses Whitney of being a swinger.
"I don't want to spoil it or anything, but it's probably not true," she says. "I can swing around many things, but my relationship is not one of them."
Whitney describes Lisa, a New York transplant who owns a variety of liquor businesses, as a "behind-the-scenes pot-stirrer," though she qualifies that with, "She's going to deny it."
"She loves to pull everyone off one on one and manage and be 'the boss' of everything, you know?" Whitney says of Lisa. "I think you should be watching out for my relationships with Lisa and Jen [Shah]."
Whitney says the duo is "relentless" when it comes to her, calling Jen an "in your face" pot-stirrer, who isn't afraid to cause a little drama for drama's sake. The fashionable marketing executive seems to be involved in pretty much everyone’s business this season, at least judging by teasers.
"She cannot stand to not be the center of attention," Whitney says of her flashiest co-star. "Jen is a big personality -- and I love attention, obviously all six of us do. We're on a Housewives show -- but it's difficult for Jen when the spotlight moves to other people."
Whitney claims Jen's spotlight-seeking behavior left her "disappointed" in Jen this season, while also teasing that Jen is tied up in the "biggest drama" of the season with Mary Cosby, a somewhat mysterious figure whose official Bravo bio shocked the Bravoholic universe when RHOSLC's casting was announced. Mary is married to her own step-grandfather, an arrangement requested in Mary's late grandmother’s will.
"She has, as you can imagine, many complex layers," Whitney says of Mary. "She arrives to the situation a little bit guarded, naturally, so Mary is someone you don't want to write off. You want to get to know her. So, give Mary a chance and I think she'll surprise you, because she has so many layers."
Mary is one of two RHOSLC co-stars with whom Whitney had a relationship with prior to the show; she also knew Heather Gay, who is Whitney's second cousin, though they actually met as friends prior to learning that information, when Whitney hired Heather as a photographer for a boudoir photo shoot.
"Heather is the one I can thank for roping me into this crazy world," she confesses. The women didn't know they would be making a Real Housewives show when they first met with producers in 2019. At the time, the concept of the series was simply to showcase the "new Utah." When the show evolved into RHOSLC, Whitney says she exclaimed a "Hell, yes!" because she, herself, is a big Housewives fan.
Bravo announced The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City at BravoCon in November 2019, and shortly after that, Whitney says she made some covert connections with other Bravolebrities to get insight into just how much this show was about to change her life. The Real Housewives of Orange County's Braunwyn Windham-Burke and The Real Housewives of Dallas' Kary Brittingham both offered words of encouragement, but Whitney credits Vanderpump Rules star Katie Maloney-Schwartz with really shepherding her through this experience. Katie, as well as her Pump Rules castmate, Lala Kent, is a Utah native.
"[She] has been kind of my rock through this," Whitney admits. "She responds to me right away every time I message her, anytime. There's as many highs as there's as many lows, and in those low moments Katie's given me the best feeling of safety and advice."
Whitney says Katie's advice has been pretty simple: look inward and brace yourself for the haters.
"You're going to be so worried about the fact that the world knows you had an affair, or you got drunk and you threw a glass, whatever it is, but people are going to come after you for, like, the type of bread that you fed your kid," she shares, revealing the mindset Katie has helped her form.
Whitney's kids are who she's most worried about as she enters the realm of public life. She and Justin have a daughter, Bobbi, 10, and a son, Books, 7, and Whitney jokes they have "two strikes against them" in Utah: One, they're not Mormon and two, their mom's now a Real Housewife.
"I really worry for my children in the community, because what their friends' parents maybe now view, or think of Justin and I," she says. "As wild as I am, as much fun as I have, choices I make, I'm a damn good mother and they’re my first priority. That was my biggest hesitation going into this."
So far, though, Whitney says she's been pleasantly surprised by the "amount of excitement" the community has shown over the show. She's still waiting on the Church’s official review, though.
"It's going to be seen in both ways, I think, of disgust or dislike, but also if it's profitable, it might be a good thing for Salt Lake City," she notes. "As long as we stay respectful -- you know, it's predominantly Mormon here -- I think you can be respectful, but be truthful."
Whitney is bringing her fair share of truth telling to the small screen, thanks in part to her father, Steve, who agreed to share his struggle with drug addiction on camera.
"It's very raw, very real, helping my dad through sobriety," she says. "The time that we started filming was right when he decided -- he just finished rehab, 30 days of rehab, and getting him to take the next step from rehab to sober living was really, really hard. Very emotional. I can't even put it into words."
"You see my dad admitting that he's an addict and that he needs help," she continues. "He's functioning as, like, a 4-year-old, you know? … I'm so proud of him, and sobriety is an everyday thing. It's not just, ‘You completed this and now you're done!’ We're still going through it."
Whitney hopes sharing the highs and lows of her life will both educate and entertain.
"I hope I surprise everyone," she says. "I have layers, I'm not just one thing. I don't fit in a box. I'm a business owner. I'm a wife. I'm a mother. I'm open. I'm a free spirit. I'm constantly evolving and growing. I think the best way to describe Whit is, I'm an experience and I'm experiencing it with you."
- ‘RHOSLC’ star Whitney Rose’s craziest beauty treatment was a worm facial (Page Six exclusive)
When it comes to her skin, the “Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” star, 34, isn’t afraid to try anything, even a “crazy, worm thing” while vacationing in Bali.
“I couldn’t look at it, but I guess it like eats all the dead skin off and I don’t know, that was the craziest thing I’ve ever done with my skin,” she recently told Page Six Style. “It was insane because I thought I was getting just a standard facial and body … And I did the fish thing where you put your feet in and they eat your dead skin off. And that was creepy. And then I couldn’t understand what she said, but it was some sort of living thing on my face! But it was great. I mean, afterward, I felt amazing.”
Rose added that she created her own skincare company, Iris + Beau, despite being a business major with no background in biology or chemistry.
“I had a corporate career, I worked full time and I would work on Iris + Beau at night. I’ve just been a skincare enthusiast and junkie my entire life because I haven’t had the best skin. Living in Utah, it’s so dry and I mean I was using high-end clinical-grade skincare and wasn’t getting the results I wanted.
So I just started playing around and finding out why certain ingredients or products worked for my skin. And I just started developing products with a guy I used to work with 15 years ago. He helped source ingredients for me and connected me to the developers and labs. And we’ve just never given up. I mean, now we have a full skincare line, body products, and it’s amazing.”
She said the company is “finally turning this corner of massive growth” but fans won’t see much of it on the show because the Bravo series is “primarily [about] her family and home life.”
Still, she looks forward to seeing fans’ reactions to her skincare.
“Seeing women glow is like the most satisfying thing for me, because it is a woman-led company,” she said. “You can only cover up with makeup so much so I feel like when we’re comfortable in our own skin, it shows. And I love that.”
- Five minute video: Meet The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Whitney Rose and Heather Gay (People TV's Reality Check)
The bubbly blonde is studying for her New York real estate license, a source told Gimme. She doesn’t have it yet, but when she does, she is slated to join Michael Lorber’s star team at Douglas Elliman.
Singer got to know Douglas Elliman by choosing the firm to rep her when she sold her Upper East Side apartment for $4 million.
The four bedroom, three-and-a-half bathroom condo first came on the market in 2018, asking $4.9 million and sold last year.
She had bought the 2,468 square foot unit at 201 E. 80th St. with her then-husband, Mario Singer, for $1.42 million in 1998.
The unit features 9-foot three-inch beamed ceilings, crown moldings, an eat-in chef’s kitchen and floor to ceiling windows showcasing city views. Building amenities include a landscaped roof garden.
Singer is currently renting a unit at 256 E. 66th St., the Solow Tower, sources say."
- Bethenny Frankel Tells ‘Dr. Oz’ How To Maintain Health & Friendships During The Pandemic (The Dr. Oz Show/ET Canada)
In a sneak-peek clip from the show, she offers her advice.
“Now’s the time to not be a deer in headlights, which we’ve all been,” she told host Dr. Mehmet Oz. “I don’t know what to do, am I supposed to be exercising, cooking, homeschooling, we all feel like we’re a disaster. Everyone is having anxiety, not sleeping. So now is the time to say, I was scared, but I stayed because of my 401k, my safety net, I now have to jump and I have to fly. Because I don’t have a choice, and now you get that courage and that excitement to try something new that you love that you thought you could do, and you go do it. Now is the best time ever.”
According to the former “Real Housewives of NYC” star, “There will be a silver lining, there will be a positive side of this, and find your way in now, but not by flailing. Now is the time to collect, plant the seeds, they will grow.”
Frankel also spoke about how she’s been maintaining her own health during the pandemic.
“I find that during this whole entire time we’ve had different ebbs and flows of what we’re prioritizing,” she explained. “In the beginning, I was meditating and I was working out every day and there was a malaise and a boredom. Just like we’re cooking meals and we’re doing all this. Then that fell to the wayside and work became a little bit more important. I was still exercising a little bit, but maybe the meditating went and now I’ve just decided to focus on sleep, not decided, your body’s telling you what you need.”
Things at the moment, she conceded, are “getting more stressful, there’s more going on. We’re supposed to be operating as if things are normal and back to work, but we’re still in a pandemic with it, watching our kids and elderly wear masks while we do as well. That’s weird.”
As a result, she says everyone needs to be a bit less tough on themselves. “I think you don’t try to hit a home run. I think you pick your spots, relationships, food, they should be something that you have a decent relationship with. It’s not always going to be perfect, but you go back to it,” she said. “I’ve been drinking less than I was in the beginning and sleeping, but not exercising as much. You can’t do it all. You can’t do it all, so you do the best you can in that moment and try to not let the whole thing have all the wheels fall off.”
Her entire appearance can be seen on the Thursday, Nov. 12 edition of “Dr. Oz”."
COVID-19 may have shut down “RHOA” production, but it didn’t shut down Cynthia Bailey’s wedding.
The “Housewives” star, 53, recently told Page Six that she and her husband, Mike Hill, took every precaution imaginable to keep their 250 guests safe for their Oct. 10 wedding.
“I have to say for anyone that’s really trying to do an event or a wedding like I did, if you’re willing to take all the precautions that we did, like COVID kind of took over our wedding,” she told us while promoting her partnership with McDonald’s McCafe.
“Like I was not agonizing over what food to taste or my cake, what it looked like,” she added. “I was literally like, ‘So what company’s coming to come and spray and disinfect the place the day of the wedding?'”
On the big day, guests at the Governors Towne Club in Acworth, Georgia, got temperature checks and were required to wash their hands before entering the wedding. Masks, face shields and hand sanitizer were available as well.
“We had people walking around encouraging people to put their mask on whenever they took it off because they had to obviously take it off to eat and drink,” she said. “And, you know, we had to stay on a couple of people about that. But for the most part, a lot of people left right after the ceremony, which was kind of great because that took that pressure off. Like I was really like for a new bride, it’s like crazy to actually be happy that people are leaving!”
She also noted that the couple originally planned to host their wedding outdoors, but Hurricane Delta interfered with their plans and forced them to move indoors just two days before the nuptials.
The couple had thought about postponing their big day in lieu of the precautions, but ultimately decided due to their moms’ health to move forward because they felt that “tomorrow is not promised.”
“Our hard work paid off because we haven’t had anyone — it’s like, I don’t know, a couple, two or three weeks since the wedding happened — and no one has called or reached out and said anything about testing positive due to our wedding,” she said. “So God is good.”
Page Six reported this week that filming on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” was shut down for two weeks after a production member tested positive for COVID-19."
- ‘RHOC’ star Emily Simpson flaunts 30-pound weight loss (Emily Simpson Instagram/Page Six)
On Tuesday, the reality star, 44, posted before and after pics on her Instagram showing her slim figure after losing weight and having her breast implants removed.
“I never wanted to show these photos publicly because Im ashamed of where I let myself get, but here I am showing my transformation because I want to be transparent with you all,” the lawyer wrote. “I worked my butt off to get here and I’m so proud of how far I’ve come and continue to go!”
She continued, “I lost myself and my confidence through gaining 30 lbs. in one year in front of millions of people on a Reality TV Show. Here I am a year and a half later feeling sexy, confident in my own skin, and like the EMILY I am meant to be!”
Simpson then posted a photo of herself with her three kids plugging her new website, which will feature workout videos and healthy recipes.
Last week, the Bravo star thanked her trainer, Paulina Stein, “for always being my partner on this journey. And for forgiving me when I mess up (and) eat burritos and iced coffees for three days in a row and gain 5 pounds.”
- Eileen Davidson Weighs In On Erika Jayne’s Divorce And Denise Richards’ RHOBH Drama, Says It Didn’t Make Anyone “Look Really Super Great” And Details Run-In With Denise (Radio Andy/Reality Blurb)
“My reaction was… I don’t think it made anybody look really super great. That’s all,” Eileen shared.
“It’s one of those things, you’re on a reality show, it comes up, things come up, things happen. I just thought it was kind of… it’s a show and there’s all of that, but there’s real people living here, there [are] real lives and I just thought it got a little messy — messier than usual,” she shared.
Although Eileen is no longer involved with the Housewives franchise, she’s still a major soap star. Because of that, she has brushed shoulders with Denise, who is now an actress on The Bold and the Beautiful.
“I just ran into her recently… maybe six weeks ago and she just said, ‘Hi! I’m not on that show anymore!’ and it was just passing in the hall with our masks on,” Eileen revealed, noting the awkwardness of the encounter.
In addition to Denise, Andy wondered how the 61-year-old felt about her former co-star Erika Jayne‘s recent divorce announcement, separating from her husband, Thomas Girardi, of 21 years.
“I hope she’s okay — that’s what I texted her. Divorce is not that unusual, so… whatever,” Eileen remarked. “I hope they’re both well, they’re both really nice people, I like ’em.”
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