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Detailed impressions of using a note 8 for a week coming from a Pixel 2 xl and Oneplus 5T.
I did own a s8+ for a period of time. Loved the screen and camera, iffy on fps location, but the main issue I had was memory management was awful, and everything was a bit stuttery out of the box on any setting above 720p. I heard samsung experience 8.5 +6gb ram 'fixed' this issue though, so I was interested. Also never owned a stylus device since the old palm pdas, so that could be fun. So anyways lets begin.
- Design wise, I won't lie this phone looks a generation ahead of the pixel 2 xl in terms of front bezels. Like I'm fine with larger top/bottom bezels but the p2xl really could tone down on the side stuff. Fingerprint sensor location still suspect, but its location does look nice aesthetically. Wish samsung would center the usb-c location though. Kind of gave up on them ever doing that. Think the way the curves are designed makes this quite a bit easier to hold without a case compare to its s8 siblings and quite a bit of other phones. Good stuff.
- speaking of the fingerprint sensor. As a former s8+ owner, it really didn't take me long to figure this stuff out again. Can easily unlock the phone when I pull the phone out of the right pocket without looking, especially with a case one. Iris scanner seems to work a bit better than before, but still not super quick or reliable as someone that wears glasses, any glare fails it completely. (I had no issue with face id on the iphone x). note 9 will definitely improve on this with the fps sensor on the front or at least a more sensible area on the back like the s9 and a8.
- stylus is a bit thin? The clicky top is really addictive though, and its easy to take out. Not a huge fan of the side textures though, just feels slippery, which I guess it kinda has to be for ease of insert/removal.
- No real issue with the mono speaker. Like the pixel 2 xl's stereo setup wasn't that loud to begin with. Feel like all water resistant phones are a bit underwhelming on this aspect, well besides apple who does some weird magic to get some really loud speakers going. Seems like samsung might be focusing more on audio this year with the leaked oreo build of s8 having dolby atmos. Hope note 9 gets some of that too!
- screen is great! The more 'flat' center does help not have as much glare as the more curvy s7edge or s8 for me. Samsung really does punch up the screen quite a bit in terms of vibrancy, combined with samsung's UI that seems to be optimized for their super amoled panels, everything just pops in a pleasant way. On a side note, I do notice how the note 8's auto brightness feels about 10% brighter than what I'd like, which is generally the opposite of other phones which autobrightness tend to be about 10-20% lower than i'd like. Guess you gotta flaunt what you got if you know its good lol.
- One of the most remarkable things about samsung phones in 2017 is that, while other companies are removing stuff, these phones still seem to just 'work' with about everything. You want to fast charge, you can use samsung adaptive fast charging, you can use USB-C PD (all my p2xl chargers work), you can use quickcharge 2.0/3.0. Microsd cards work (Not just google that doesn't support expandable memory anymore...). Still the only android phones that support fast wireless charging. Headphone jack (pack in headphones aren't too bad for free either)! Samsung flagships are on the higher price tier, but you can't really say they cut corners (looking at you huawei with a $800* 1080p phone with no headphone jack or expandable memory).
- The one nag I've found is battery life. Getting about 4.5 hr SOT at 30% which is about 45min shorter than the p2xl's and about 20min shorter than op5t with the same apps and usage. Not a huge deal, especially with the charging options, but its something I gotta pay attention to more, especially when i'm out and about in areas without many charging areas. Just a bit startling to have a phone that isn't the best of battery that weighs this much. My ravpower battery pack with qc3 works nicely though. I do hope samsung releases their own proprietary charger option someday too to compete with dash/super charging. samsung has always been on the slower end of 'fast charging'.
- camera is good. takes decent low light, quick focus, no weird lags that my p2xl got after 8.1 (mostly around rotation). I do feel like p2xl takes slightly better pics but i'm not an expert. I've found more use out of the telephoto zoom lens on the note 8 though. Good stuff.
- haptics is good still. feel like only LG, Samsung and apple figured this stuff out. Gimme a nice punch feedback, none of that weak vibrating tinny stuff.
- Performance has been... pretty good. Still not a huge fan of some of the zooms and animations around the ui (dev options speed tweaks dont' really help), but things are definitely an improvement over the s8. There is still the tiniest of delays when tapping the nav buttons at times that you don't notice unless you have a more stockish phone next to you, but its there. But day to day is fine and as someone that used the snappiest android phones out there, i've never been bothered by navigating on the note 8, which is a remarkable thing to say about a samsung a week after a fresh install. I do notice this weird animation stutter when I spam the recent button though. Not something you ever do really, but I've never noticed that on my other phones lol.
- I'm spoiled by google's scaling options. Every other android phone's smallest ui scaling doesn't come close to what google offers. Gotta have to do it myself in dev options (484 dp with small font just looks great). Sadly tweaking those does mess up some stock things like samsung keyboard, and camera open animation. Not a huge deal, huawei emui fails way worse when tweaking those settings.
- Overall I do like how samsung experience looks. Best looking company theme yet. It's clearly designed to maximize the good aspects of super amoled panel. Meanwhile I been feeling that the pixel roms have gotten worse looking over the years. The filled in buttons look just awful in white nav bar, which is what all google apps are moving to. Also please provide a 1 handed mode in aosp already google... such a useful feature for giant phones.
- the 6gb ram is good. Apps stay around quite a bit longer than the p2xl which definitely was on the aggressive side for a 4gb ram phone for me. App reloads is still the most annoying part of phone usage for me, so the less often that happens the better. I definitely prefer a bit of lag but app state is saved, over no lag but app reload. 6gb ram is kinda needed if you play these unoptimized gacha games without apps being killed lol.
- Samsung still does the best multiwindow. These tall screens sure does make watching videos/livestreams while chatting with folks doable with 1 device. The main issue with stock nougat was that when you opened a keyboard on the bottom app it pushes videos off screen. Oreo fixed that... but sometime since then its broken again because lol google. This stuff worked fine on s8, works fine on note 8. The floating window app functionality is still better than pip for oreo as well. You have full control of the app functionality while also this has the benefit of not being pay gated like youtube pip is behind youtube red.
- Stylus... is interesting. as a navigation tool its pretty nice to have basically a 'mouse'. Found it easy to use it for swipe keyboard more so then the writing keyboard option lol. Sadly the white stone protector doesn't seem to be perfect for the stylus so there is some... odd resistance that I'm not a huge fan of the feel. hover scroll seems to only work on stock apps... and twitter. Bummer because its a really nice feature! AOD notes is great too. Definitely found some usage at work to jot some quick notes. Not a 'gamechanger' but its nice to have. I'm definitely fine with sacrifice a bit of battery for the stylus. Built in always is better than something that needs to be store externally, like I always misplace my surface pro 3's stylus once that flimsy loop fell off the keyboard cover. I kinda wish the phone was a big wider though, to give you more writing room. Feel like the phone still got room to grow if needed. My pockets still got plenty of room ;)
- the 'hard press' home button is neat. A friend told me that you can actually do some gestures too with it by press it down then quickly swipe left to recent apps, swipe right to go back. All I can say that is that it kinda works, but requires some finesse and doesn't work that great especially one handed. But I definitely can see samsung build on this idea. With apple ditching the home button and just doing gestures, other chinese roms are scrambling to copy (oppo's implementation is pretty ok!, and I can't imagine samsung just sitting around doing nothing. I do kinda feel like nav bar is a bit 'outdated' and takes up quite a bit of 'screen space' in the era where everyone is scrambling to ditch bezels.
- bixby still kinda sucks, but its kinda neat doing system level tasks by voice. Not something I use much.
- samsung pay is still great.
- gear s3 works better on a samsung phone > android > ios. Little things like synced alarms with the phone, can smartly decide which audio source to answer phone calls on if you have headphones plugged in (android wear never can sort that out). Still weird that samsung pay on the gear watch is different from the phone. gotta setup twice.
- case support. 2nd to only apple. So many options. Meanwhile the selection for pixel stuff has always been limited.
- Never could figure out why direct share is only 1 row of contacts compared to 2 for aosp. Don't remember this being a setting anywhere to increase?
- Never could figure out how to hide this wifi calling notification even if I disable 'preferred'. I want wifi calling but I don't need to be constantly reminded.
- bluetooth battery indicator doesn't seem to work for my BT headsets that works fine on my pixel 2 xl and op5/5t like anker soundbuds. Wonder if oreo update will fix that?
what I want from a note 9 is better finger print sensor location, stereo speakers, more battery. If they jack the price up more, they better also have 8gb ram.
As always ask away if you have any questions or corrections.
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